Yates Center to Southeast of Yates Center

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  • States: Kansas   
  • Railroads: MP   

I do not have any information on this abandoned route. If you know anything about this route, please feel free to leave a comment below.

Thank you!

all the old maps I have just show the old Southern Kansas RR (AT&SF RR later)that ran northeast out of Yates Center to Neasho Falls KS then on to Colony KS.

Tim Thorp
austin, MN
6/26/2010

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Unless your talking about the MP (old {i belive} VV&I RR ) that runs north to Paola KS and runs south to Buffalo KS splits off. 1 runs to Independence KS and other 1 runs to Sedan KS

Tim Thorp
austin, MN
6/26/2010

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Many, many years ago, when the main Missouri Pacific Raillroad's Kansas City to Coffeyville, Kansas line was built, that line passed a couple of miles to the east of present day Yates Center. There is some indication from some early Kansas maps that when this line was built that Yates Center may not have existed. Later, when Yates Center did come into existence, the Missouri Pacific added a short section of rail line to its Kansas City to Coffeyville line that departed from the existing line a few miles north-northeast of Yates Center and came down through Yates Center and continued southward, connecting with the already constructed line a few miles south-southeast of Yates Center. Because at that time, the distance between Yates Center and the existing rail line would have been about a two mile distance (and maybe just a bit more), which would be a time consuming distance to move freight by wagons pulled by horses or oxen from or to Yates Center and the existing line and also would entail some degree of problems and/or difficulties for passenger to get from or to Yates Center from the existing line, I am assuming that the Missouri Pacific decided to build that second section of track in that area to make it easier for shippers and passengers to access railroad service on the Kansas City to Coffeyville line. Somewhere on the Internet is a detailed list of railroad line abandoments in Kansas, and that list includes that second short section of track that passed through Yates Center. There is some indication from information on the Kansas Rail Abandonment List that the short section of track through Yates Center was abandoned in two sections, first in one direction from Yates Center to the connection with the existing line earlier constructed, and then later from Yates Center in the other direction, again abanadoned from Yates Center to the connection with the earlier constructed line. Probably the reason for abandoning the section of track through Yates Center was because trucks could more easily and much quicker move freight between Yates Center and the station east of Yates Center, which was Durand and of course, automobiles also made it easy for passengers from or to Yates Center that needed to catch passenger trains to Kansas City or Coffeyville resulted in that short section of line costing more to operate than the revenue it generated for the railroad. Durand was the location where the Fort Scott to Wichita line crossed the Kansas City to Coffeyville line, and was an important junction point with a yard where setouts and pick ups were made by trains in all four directions.

Jim Fisher
Formerly from Wilson County Kansas, KS
12/25/2012

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I am orignially from Chanute, but I live in the S portion S. Main to be exact where my property had an old depot on it, I have the sidewalk, the train tressel etc. I would like more information if I could about the railway that went through my property.

Gina Robbins
Yates Center, KS
5/30/2013

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This comment is directed to Gina Robbins, who posted a question on May 30th.

Ms. Robbins,

I'm thinking that the abandoned railroad line you were inquiring about is probably the Santa Fe line that was built from somewhere around Colony to Yates Center and then years later abandoned.

I am going to send you some information along with two aerial photos by U.S. Mail that I think will explain why I'm of the opinion that abandoned rail line through your property was a Santa Fe line. I will try to get the info mailed to you tomorrow (Friday, the 31st).

A perhaps better way to more accurately determine what railroad had built that line would to be to check with the Woodson County Historical Society to see if they have any information in the form of newspaper articles or maps that would provide firm information about what railroad had built the line.

If you would like, please feel free to contact me via e-mail.

Jim Fisher

Camas, Washington

(formerly from Altoona, Kansas)

Jim Fisher
Camas, WA
5/30/2013

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As a railroader who has worked through that area many times I believe I can answer your questions. I think that the grade you are talking about was part of the original mainline from kc to coffeyville when it was surveyed and built. The grade comes off the current main at 150th rd. northeast of town and runs southwest for a couple of miles and then begins a series of compound curves as it climbs the hill toward town. It enters town between the cemetary and 75 Hwy and runs right down N. Pratt St. where it hopes the old MOP main and 75 Hwy at about the same place. It then makes a sweeping curve heading south and runs just east of the current junk yard and ball field where it straightens out and continues in a southeasterly direction where it connects with the current main just south of 70th rd. Now there are two things that railroads hate and that is curves and grade. By doing away with the original grade and building the current line they did away with countless curves and I would guess some 1% grade and replaced it with 10 miles of tangent (straight) track and nothing more than .03% grade. And do not forget that the east/west line through Yates Center, former St. Louis, Ft. Scott and Wichita track, was also owned by the MOP so cars could be interchanged at Durand (current depot location) and shipped on that line as well to get to town. As far as the line that comes around the south side of town and then runs more or less straight northeast toward Neosho Falls and then to Colony that was former ATSF. It meets the ATSF main just south of Colony. That ATSF main at Colony was former LL&G, Leavenworth, Lawrence, and Galveston, so I do not know who built the branch to Yates Center LL&G or ATSF.

J. Anderson
McCune, KS
8/28/2014

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I received the maps that you sent a year or so ago... and you are correct by the look of the maps it is pretty clear where the railway must have been and that there was a turnaround not far from my place where the track actually just turned around and went north again. There was a stock yard area where they loaded cattle at the turnabout I am told... which would make sense with the maps as well. I am trying to find pictures of the depot now. Thanks so much.

Gina Robbins
Yates Center, KS, KS
9/16/2014

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