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There is a lot of right a way remaining. Including the coal line serving the WPL plant in Sheboygan. running out to the union Pacific tracks. If you know where to look you can see bridges and stations all the way back to North Milwaukee. That is where it continued to downtown Milwaukee on Streetcar tracks.
I think that line runs parallel to the CN Saukville Sub formerly the Milwaukee Road Plymouth sub right around Mill Rd., just east of Teutonia Ave.
To both Ralph and Steve:
Ralph; I assume you have driven many a times north on HWY 100 in Hales Corners, looked right on the right hand side by power tower's and seen where the old ROW went running east? My son work pit at the old raceway in the day.
Steve, Hi to another South Milwaukeean. Did you know the old TMER&L's interurban ran, starting at 10th and Milwaukee Ave then then went east to the curve then south, down 5th Ave to once known as Carrollville, then south to meet with Milwaukee Racine Kenosha line.
Dale Wisconsin Railbuff.
In regard to carrolville. The original MRC line appears to have been right along side Chicago avenue. Then when the streetcar tracks in Cudahy and South milwaukee were removed all the way back to St Francis ( which was called the Town of Lake then,)
The TMER&L built the New MRC line. This is the one that was just east of the Chicago & Northwestern Tracks just east of the Airport. The right of way is highly visible all the way to Racine.
In regard to the Hales Corners Line of TMER & T. There are still 2 Power Line towers on Highway 100 and Janesville Road which have vertical sides. one on the East side of the tower and the other one on the South side of the tower. These vertical sides are the side where the tracks were located and were to supports for the Trolley wires. Until just a few months ago these vertical sided towers could be seen all the way back to interstate 94 from Lincoln Avenue. They have been replaced with super high Round poles east of Highway 45.
I stand corrected. However according to the book TM(The Milwaukee Electric Railway and Light Company) this line left the MRK at 10th Ave in S.Milw, then proceeded down Milw Ave to curve which turned to 5th Ave south. the track went down the center of street to Marion Ave then move to the left side of the street till the Carrollvile Loop. A line 1929 was installed from the loop to a chemical company called Newport, then went down to to the new MRK. This was called Carrollvile Junction, which I believe was use for mostly freight and some passenger service. The line from Loop to 10th Ave was abandoned and/or removed in 1934.
Excuse me Ralph, I thought posting of Carrollvile was from you. The question I have is were a bouts was the Hales Corner Loop located?
Re Hales Corners loop.
There was a TMER & T loop lpcated on the east side of North Cape Road as the road went up the hill west os Highway 100. The present location of the Condos . They stored wooden poles etc on that site.
Are you also aware that there was a spur going east from just south of Layton Avenue which ran southeast where The Root River Parkway now is located, to about 72nd Street and Grange, that was used to bring rail cars to Greendale when the Old Section was being built around 1935
I am now. It came off north of Layton, ran to Grange, one section of track crossed Grange as well. I-5/1/34 and R-4/28/38.
You said old section being rebuilt. Old section of what? Before I retired from ABB Inc. I would turn at Rawson Ave on to 76th St north to Grange, West on Grange on to work located on S. Emmer DR in New Berlin.
I believe that it was call Speedrail. It was abandoned after a NMRA excursion accident near National Ave. Jay Maeder was at the throttle of an articulated train 39-40 that collided with duplex 1192-93. They where suppose to pass each other at a double track passing north of west junction. Someone goofed on the schedule and thus the accident. This killed the last of any rapid transit trains in Milwaukee. As you know TMER&T ceased all street car service, NO#10 Wells ST, March of 1958.
Ah Yes. My brother in law, Dave Zuehlke actually were on the last ride. we boarded at 70Th & Greenfield right next to Allis Chalmers and rode downtown to Mason Street and stayed right on without paying an additional fare of 10 cents. Westbound on the standing room only streetcar we passed over the Wells street viaduct. The people standin tried to rock the car, but it did not cause any problems. Then we were off the cat at 70th Street again and the streetcar moved off into history.
How I envy you guys. I was 2 going on 3 when Speedrail ceased. However I do remember street car action as far backs as 1953/1954 in the few times Dad went to Milwaukee. I did see the last of the Wells St car in early March of 1958. I could have rode it but went with my Mother instead. Dad went to have his taxes audited, Ma said I would be bored. To this day I could still kick myself in the rear quadrant of my body for not going with Dad. Although I did have a once in a life time, ride the morning CN&W train form West bend to the old lakefront depot and back. Believe it or not, in an old Great Northern coach. Sorry if I sound like an old windbag, but I always enjoy the numerous train rides which I was able ride.
Can anyone tell me the progress of the renewal of the rail line from Plymouth to Kohler? Are they still running it through Sheboygan Falls?
As of last Saturday. The bridge over the River downtown on City 23 Sheboygan Falls was still being reconstructed. The route is following the old C & NW line. don't see much else around Sheboygan Falls.
In regard to Speedrail
TMER & T sold the Rapd Transit lines to Kenosha Motor coaches. Then after some years KCM abandoned the line to Port Washington and also to Kenosha about 1948? They sold The line from Milwaukee to Waukesha and the branch to Hales Corners about the same time. Jay Maeder renamed it Speedrail. Interesting enough Maedere was at the controls of the excursion light weight Speedrail car when the crash occurred.
If you can try buying or getting a copy of the book "TM(The Milwaukee Electric Railway and Light Company)" by Joseph M. Canfield. It was published in 1972. It may available through amazon.com or it might be at your local library. I know it's an old book, but it's really full of valuable information about the TMER&L/TMER&T. Pardon this note if you already have it.
I believe you can find that book at the Trolley Museum in East Troy. along with a lot of other stuff.
This site looks like a personal e-mail posts between D.Marks and Ralph. Thanks for the info on TM book. Hope to hear from you soon. Do you get out to East Troy's museum?